It is the basic form. Date and time notation in Republic of Ireland — Date In Ireland, the date is written in the order day month year , with the separator as a slash, dot, hyphen, or just left blank. Years can be written with two or four digits. Date and time notation in Netherlands — Date In the Netherlands, dates are written as: dd mm yyyy 31 10 dd mm yy 31 10 99 month written out 31 oktober month abbreviated 31 okt occasionally month as a roman number 31 X including weekday zondag 31… … Wikipedia.
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Date and time notation in Europe. By the leftmost first character of course! How do you sort dates? The logic shifts and logically so depending on what is most relevant in terms of our daily work. Days and Hours are more critical than Years and Seconds. In the second column come the tens, then hundreds.
When writing a date the smallest periods come first days , then the next most sizeable period included months and then the largest years. So numbers and dates are consistent in their approach in most of the world. For my checks, I write, as an example, 10 April I work in Treasury services and the differing date formats are a total pain in the bum. One was done in Europe, and the other is from U. Remember, remember the fifth of November, Gunpowder treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot. But every ambiguous date format is to be avoided in all contexts. Use those. Simplest solution would be for us all to stick with the versions that involve logical progresssions, ie day month year or year month day.
There is no usage in which this could mean the ninth of April, White and Strunk in Elements of Style urge use of the non-comma format for composition. Save those keystrokes, and use them, if you do save, at the end of life to explain yourself, without typing. Unless you save the keystrokes in one place and then use them elsewhere, as I do. Personally, I prefer the Asian style date format: year, month, day. A descending hierarchy makes the most logical sense when referring to orders of time.
So today would be written as This is probably counterintuitive to many Westerners, yet no one has ever accused the English language of being intuitive or easy to follow. The ISO standard uses hyphens, not slashes, to separate yyyy-mm-dd. This natural order not the European one is used in China and Japan. When I write a check, that is how I place the date.
I believe so. Consider, for example, reports of three events that occur on January 20, April 15, and December 1 of or any other year.
If the files are saved with names in ISO format i. No other date format presents the files in such a logical order. In other words a presentation that will ensure immediate comprehension? There are so many things that our conservative party refuses to consider to change.
I made a personal switch to the metric system when I was at a healthcare organization and all the physicians had to refer to different things as cm or mm for various sizes of lacerations or abnormal growths that are removed.
Then the patient would come in and ask how big is it. Doc would stand there and be trying to convert in their head to inches! I finally made charts for the consultation rooms to show how big 3cm, 5cm, 7cm, 9cm so doctor would say you have a 2cm mole on your back that we need to take off today. I made it easier to explain and pt to understand. Trying to spend all day converting one to the other will drive you bonkers. Have to just bite the bullet and do it.
Took a bit but you learn by error. Like seeing the temp was 20c and putting on a heavy sweater and coat thinking it would be cold. I learned that one quick!
Monday Day, Year is another one that drove me nutz because the only was to sort data was to import it and then separate the date elements, move them to a hierarchal order Year Month day or day month year. True, American historians attempting to appeal to the masses may revert to April 12, , but those writing for scholarly journals will not. Also: the 12 April format is routinely used by American genealogists when they write; I know because my sister happens to be one.
The twit wrote the American date format. The European, Asian, and American date orders are all internally consistent and therefore both equally logical and equally arbitrary. And Americans are not about to switch to the metric system or drive on the other side of the road.
When in Rome …do as the Romans do. Americans understand other Americans, Brits understand other Brits, Nerds and mathematicians understand other nerds and mathematicians. In Prussia there are many roads, Each man must find his own way. JOHN — but we live in a world now.
WHAT has religion to do with dates?! However, I bet all the countries he once ruled now use the Euro numeric. The month is written in Roman numerals while the day is in Arabic numerals: I am a Brit and we can and do frequently use the month-day-format, which many on this site seem to consider American.
What is true is that, when written numerically, you must use day-month-year in British English. But when giving the date in full, you can just as easily say July 4th as 4th July , without its sounding in the slightest unnatural or affected.
Can you imagine how stupid you feel having to pause and think of your birthdate? I have thoughts that it was probably somehow to be different from UK, too. In a way you are right it's kind of strange that it's different then again we don't use the metric system a lot, either.
However, I believe it has sometime to do with being different. Have a nice day. I would submit that , if a citation in support of one format or the other, spells out the month in letters completely or in abbreviated form , it is not responsive to the OP's question.
Perhaps this is because at least most of the rest of the world does use that and they'd get too many forms filled out incorrectly?? Polixenes Member Bermuda. Americans will say "the fourth of July", or "the first of June", or "the twenty-fifth of December", but always with that word "of". If the "of" is removed, Americans would not say "fourth July", or "four July", but instead would say "July fourth".
And by the way, the engrossed copy of the Declaration of Independence, written at that time, says "July 4, Would any British speakers care to comment? I am willing to bet that in ordinary conversation most British speakers do the same thing: they might refer to "the second of February", but not "two February", and they would also commonly say "February second".
Last edited: Jun 27, I agree entirely, we wouldn't speak with the format "2nd February" in the UK. Perhaps I'm wrong and haven't paid enough attention. You're right, Polixenes But if I were speaking about the calendar date, when making an appointment for example, I would call it July 4th, just as I would say October 17th. Adding both "the" and "of" makes it too long-winded to use day-to-day, thus we'll often say "October 17th," not "the 17th of October. The absence of the definite article really caught me off guard especially after I'd learned that the exam was really "Grammatically Correct".
I had always thought it was some kind of colloquial usage. Anyone is welcome to scour Google Books or similar for lots of examples of English books printed in the 17th and 18th centuries which include examples such as those I posted earlier. What I found most interesting was the variety, often in a single volume, of date expressions. Yes, the "I" is an exact transcription. While the folks in Edmonds certainly are cognizant of the way Europeans and others write dates and other things, they mostly live in the USA so they use US standards.
Seems appropriate to me and I suspect that simply using European formatting for such things would confuse more of their customers than it would to follow familiar conventions.
They clearly note how Europeans deal with dates and other numbers in all the books. The time format on this forum is also set for AM or PM, which is what most people are used to, rather than the 24 hour time which seems more common in Europe.
That time format is also more common with transportation such as airlines and rail networks. In my personal life, I normally use the international date standard and 24 hour time as that's what I had to use for employment and other activities, so have no problem with that. After working for a US-based bank doing business internationally, I find it easiest to express dates in correspondence as day, month spelled out, year -- ex.
I assume it's just the way the forum software is programmed. Which makes sense for a forum based in the USA. I have used the National Express app to research coach tickets for trips in the UK. This is an app solely for trips within the UK. Yet when you choose a date, and the calendar comes up, the first day of the week is Sunday! I am so used to calendars in Europe starting with Monday, it can be very confusing.
And the UK, as compared with the Continent, is not always consistent. Stories in the Times of London, for example, often have a dateline written, as in today's paper, "October 27 " yes, no comma. I've even seen a date written in numbers the U. Can't remember where that was, but it was very surprising.
Because this is a US-based website with a primarily US-based audience. Imagine the confusion that change would cause. I am not sure what your point is. More confusing is using three letters to abbreviate airport names. As others have noted US company US website I will add that it's used by a lot of entry-level US travelers to Europe who have no idea that Europe uses a different date standard. Using the Europe date standard would be confusing to those people.
The world is not consistent. Because the YYYY-MO-DAY format is digitally friendly of the 3 formats it is the only one that alphabetizes chronologically when only numbers are used it is the format that will win. I worked for an international business, and we all found it easiest to write out the month abbreviation for clear communication across the audience. While we are having this inane discussion, lets throw in feet and meters or miles and kilometers or even worse C and F.
I am always confused by the mix of measures in the UK. You have petrol sold in liters, but measure distance in miles, then measure everything else in metric lengths and volumes. Except in pubs where beer and cider is still sold in pints. Weight of a person can be in kilos, or stone. I saw strawberries on offer at one of the grocers weighed by the pound.
Makes me happy when I get home and, yes the measures are not evenly divisible or have easy to remember multiples, but they are all from the same system of weights and measures.
And the format of the date doesn't bother me as long as it is clear. I prefer the month spelled out to reduce confusion. Who would have thought a simple post like this would engender such a pile on. One or maybe two answers commenting on the probability of software programming parameters should have been sufficient. There is an International standard for expressing dates and times.
Not every country or organization uses it, although the government firms I worked for did follow this standard. Well actually in the Germanic countries we use dd. I wrote to the Webmaster asking if it would be possible to give forum users the option of how to display dates.
I don't know, it just seemed like a more productive approach than complaining about it on the forum. Even if technically possible it would create so much confusion as to make 'dating' a post pointless.
That's true, Nancy, but you're number 27 and I'm number Look at your computers. Unless changed, the date will read year, month, day, the international standard. The opposite makes more sense to me, the month first makes no sense. With Brexit loomimg, I soon might be able to order a tanners worth of chips again, though I'd likely only get 3 or 4 chips for a tanner nowadays. A pot of mushy peas is worth its weight in gold.
I prefer using D-M-Y but I know it is tough to change. What I wish is for people to just pay attention to this when filling out forms. They often don't and then confusion happens. The Military and Government switch it up by using the year first.
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